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All Comments for "Moby vs. Hill" (13)

nixsight (11 months ago)
 
Great post, Noah!
I don't necessarily agree that this distinction is definitive, and think there are too many situations where how a story is classed depends on how deep or shallow you look at it, but I certainly agree with your secondary assertion that such structures are handy for bypassing tired (or divisive) cultural arguments...
Though of course, I realise that I've probably been propagating one such cultural argument elsewhere today!
Hm. How much did you enjoy writing a post where you got to say "Dick" and "Fanny" almost constantly?
 
 
Doctor Science (11 months ago)
 
American comics don't really reach out to women or girls or children — and they don't, and they're probably not going to, ever
.. and that would be because...? I get the feeling you're caught in a circular definition, here: you're defining Real Comics as ones for a male market, and anything (like, say, manga or American-made sequential art reminiscent of manga) that isn't male dominated isn't Real Comics. QED. Yet AFAIK manga is the fastest-growing segment of the sequential-art market.
 
 
NoahB (11 months ago)
 
I didn't say anything about which comics are real or which aren't. The only series I buy regularly is a shojo title, actually. The best chance for a women-friendly American comics industry is indeed probably American manga. I just have trouble seeing that becoming the norm for a variety of reasons (Japanese manga being so much better established; American mainstream comics being unlikely to go there.)
I think it's a bad thing that American comics don't reach out to women. I wish they did. I don't see it happening, is all. I'd be happy to be wrong, though.
 
 
Doctor Science (11 months ago)
 
In response to NoahB
The only series I buy regularly is a shojo title, actually
Really? Which?
I don't see it happening, is all
If the manga and manga-like part of the market is growing much faster than the rest, I don't see how it can *not* happen. If the current industry doesn't learn, it'll just be different companies making and selling most sequential art.
 
 
NoahB (11 months ago)
 
In response to Doctor Science
Nana.
 
 
Powerwolf (11 months ago)
 
Why does it have to be just Dick or just Fanny?
Why can't,. just once, why can't we have some Dick in our Fanny?
 
 
NoahB (11 months ago)
 
Well, I'm sure there are hybrids out there...though I must admit nothing's springing instantly to mind...
 
 
Powerwolf (11 months ago)
 
In response to NoahB
I'm sure something will come.
 
 
NoahB (11 months ago)
 
All right; I think Jack Hill's Swinging Cheerleaders (which I reference in the column) probably has some elements of both Dick and Fanny. Obviously, it's all about swinging cheerleaders, which is the fanny part, but there's also a fair bit of male bonding among the football players, and there's arguably a good guy/bad guy dynamic between the quarterback good guy and the rich bad guy who wants to throw the game.
The male-male bonding isn't especially fraught, is the only thing...still, it's all I could come up with for the moment.
 
 
Powerwolf (11 months ago)
 
In response to NoahB
Dude, you ruined it.
 
 
NoahB (11 months ago)
 
In response to Powerwolf
Ruined what? Surely the categories are robust...dare I say virile?...enough to support the most penetrating examination.
 
 
Powerwolf (11 months ago)
 
In response to NoahB
Well, an uninterrupted intercourse on the subject would have been better, but I suppose we can't simply spurt our ideas out all in one place.
This is the internet, after all.
 
 
Rippke (10 months ago)
 
How would you categorize my favorite film, Children of Men?
 
 
 
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